What Powder

[Don McDowell]

70 hrs od 2f eynsford with a .060 fiber wad between the powder and the bullet.
Don't drill out the flash holes, and don't use magnum primers.

[Lumpy Grits]

WELCOME Jim
What Don sez will get you go'n very well.
I use 2F, "E" in both my .45-70 and .45-90.
Gary

[alfajim]

70 hrs od 2f eynsford with a .060 fiber wad between the powder and the bullet.
Don't drill out the flash holes, and don't use magnum primers.

Don I see your keyboard works like mine I think your post should read 70grs of 2f? On the no drill and no magnum primers that's because it lights easier so that would be overkill?

Jim

[Don McDowell]

Magnum primers pretty much overkill for any blackpowder. What they were doing with that deal was trying to replicate the amount of flash the Berdan primers gave, only problem with that deal ,is the primers pre smokeless powder were much weaker than the primers we have today.

[alfajim]

Magnum primers pretty much overkill for any blackpowder. What they were doing with that deal was trying to replicate the amount of flash the Berdan primers gave, only problem with that deal ,is the primers pre smokeless powder were much weaker than the primers we have today.

OK I understand what your saying about the primers then vs now but it seems he was getting good results that way. In his book his reasoning was it was taking that much fire to get the highly compressed charge to light off.
Even using the std. rifle primers why not drill out the hole? Or is it that he was balancing out the primer ignition to the interferance and crimp on the bullit? Is that still a good idea to use for my purpose tight fit and light crimp?

Jim

[Don McDowell]

No crimp is the best way to go with accuracy. A tight slip fit will serve much better.
Drilling out the flash holes is a pretty good way to wreck a bunch of cases.

[alfajim]

No crimp is the best way to go with accuracy. A tight slip fit will serve much better.
Drilling out the flash holes is a pretty good way to wreck a bunch of cases.

A little off subject maybe but now that all the brands of cases are avalable which brand is best to get the 70grs in with the wad and how much compression would that require especially with the .500gr bullet? Figure I best pick some up now before they all disappear.
Also would it be a good idea to make the wad a grease wad with paper each side to keep fouling soft?

Jim

[alfajim]

WELCOME Jim
What Don sez will get you go'n very well.
I use 2F, "E" in both my .45-70 and .45-90.
Gary

Thanks Gary, you being a Ca resident whats the match schedual here in Ca and rifle requirements as I will only be using the 45-70 trapdoor?

Jim

[Don McDowell]

What ever you can find are fine. I see Grafs had both Hornady and Winchester.

[alfajim]

What ever you can find are fine. I see Grafs had both Hornady and Winchester.

Don going to bother you once again. Due to the difficulty of obtaining BP here in Ca. would it be better to just use BP subs for the most part as I can get them locally.
If I decide to do that whats the recommendation of all here as best or most user friendly?

Jim