Hyde's patched

[Don McDowell]

Them old dead guys may have known more than we think they did
Had a break in the weather and jumped out with the roughrider with it's new chamber, and MVA scope. Shooting at 300 yds went thru several rounds of previously loaded ammo to get the wind and elevation.
Then jumped into some rounds I have loaded using some of the info from Perry's book. Only 300 yds and on steel ,cuz the target board is still froze to the ground, but this picture is 8 rounds , short patched with the Hyde method 8lb seth cole, and no wads. 76 grs OE 2f br2 primer in Jamison 44-77 cases. BACO 434-470 bullet cast from 16-1 .
Next time out think we'll jump right to 1000 if the winds are almost tolerable .

[Kurt]

It sure is telling you something!!

[Don McDowell]

I wiped between shots with one damp and one dry on a nylon brush...

[Tombstone 71]

Nice group Don. I think yer on to a good load.

[Don McDowell]

Thanks Tim, I'm really surprised at how well that shot without any wads under the bullet. Have some loaded with a thin wad and some with the wad stack I've been using. But the wind picked up and I was getting flinchy any way (went thru about 30 rounds in about an hour), so next time...

[Tombstone 71]

I put the flat base in my new mold and am going to run some 16 to 1 in it in the morning and try for a 540 gr. I am running a .410 wad/lube cooke stack with 100 compression at 115 gr. of kik. I may load some up with out the .410 stack and that will need 121 gr. of kik to match my oal I use and compression. Will try the hyde method on the wrap. That should send them bulleetoes out in the 1500 fps or so.

Took pic's of mold and cast round's with my smart phone and it won't talk to my puter. Kid will be here in the morning and help me iron it out.

Tim

[Don McDowell]

I've been running a dry lubed felt wad and a Napa rubber gasket wad, with this same bullet. Out of the 16-1 its a tad bigger around than the 20-1 and I had to seat it fairly deep to get it to chamber without getting rambunctious with it. But that works good with this Eynsford powder because its' only compressing about .2.
Was also surprised that we didn't find any "dimes" at the target, this harder alloy just vaporized.
Looking forward to seeing your new blocks and bullet.

[Tombstone 71]

This mold drop's 1n40 at .443 ----1n20 at .444 and I hope .446 at 1n16 which with seth cole 8# will get me .451 patched di. Will see in the morn.

[Don McDowell]

16-1 probably get you to .445, which should work alright with the seth cole anyway.

[Eric Johanen]

Don. I really think you and Kenny are on to something. I am using Sagebrush PJ Money bullet and BACO Money bullet. Both are running .443 dia. PJ bullet is 1.497 long and 530.9grs, Baco is 1.507 long and 535.3 grs. Patched with .002 Mead tracing paper when completely dry, they are .451 dia. Have not noticed bad call flyer's at 800, but a few at 900 and more at 1000 yards. I have been patching to ogive with only a bit of the base free of paper. Comparing notes at Lodi I believe that some of the patches were not releasing clean upon exit and this may be the cause of the flyers. I am now trying a height of 23/32. This is giving me a 3/32 base fold and 20/32 for patch height. This is short of the ogive and should release cleanly upon exit. I will be testing with 1&1/2 Swiss, Old E 2fg and Old E3fg in my 45-70 and 45-90. I will be using .030 and .060 card for compression and a cork or felt wad under the bullet to protect the base. As soon as our weather improves I have some work to do. Old method loads were good enough to get me classified Expert and think a larger front apperature for 1000 yards and this patching style will improve my scores and get rid of the occasional wide shot.