Paper Patch question

[Stephen Borud]

I use the same mix as Bob. I have a double boiler that works slick for melting the lube. I did take some 1/2" lexan and milled it out for a lube mold. Warm the lube up and pour it in the lexan plate. The lube does shrink up a bit, so I milled the lexan right at .200 deep, when it shrinks up ate right at .190 in thickness.

Stephen

[powderburner]

if you dont have one of stephens boards, one of them cheep 6x6 candy tins are just perfect. turn it upside down and pour lube into the bottom , it is the right height and the dimention is good for packing and storage, .then if you want to get real fancy , get a 1.00$ cutting board from the dollar store drill some 3/8 holes in it and use it for a lube form , it is a little thick but the cookies you cut drop into the case , and the follower on the wad flattens them into placeat the right height. ,saves one step ,having to wipe the case necks , I prefer to travel with these , they are a little less messy on the road and in a tent.

[bobw]

I still use a lube sheet mold that Brant Selb sent me milled out of what looks like Delrin. A guy still needs to use a small level when pouring this full to make sure you have the mold LEVEL or you get a lube cake that is not uniform in thickness. Dean's mold throws beautifully uniform size cookies everytime and they work great because they are handily packed in a candy tin till needed,he keeps them in the tin in his wood shooting box so they don't get a hot car heat transfer. Last year at the Montana 1000 in the evening we sat under his tent fly in the shade drinking lemonade while he loaded his charged cases as effortlessly as swatting skeeters. He had his primed charged cases wadded and compressed packed in his shooting box load block ready for a cookie ,top wad, and whatever bullet he decided to patch and install, simple and effective. He made it simple as the truth usually is,his uniformity of his loads outstanding. bobw

[Dave Roelle]

Lots of great help for me here gentlemen-thanks for the continuing discussion !!!!! the lube cookie mold idea sounds like the thing to do----i'll work on that mold next

Bob---the lathe guy's finished the neck sizing die----all polished up ready to use ---- hope to get loading and testing tomorrow----------the expander should open an anealed cast to 0.4505--same as the patched bullet----the cases are "partially sized" leaving the head section and say 20% of the case adjacent to the head untouched-----hope everything will center up just fine.

If this new case prep process works (closes the group to say 2 or 3 minutes) i'll load enough to shoot next weeks sillywet match

Any thoughts on the bigger pieces of "confetti"----normal---good---disastrous ??????

Again thanks for continuing the thread and happy 4th

Dave

[powderburner]

while confetti is nice , one of my best Creedmoore loads was a heavy velum patch on a round nose bullet that left a 1/2 patch and a confetti top wrap , I shot some of my best scores with it , the big problem I saw with it was so much elevation compared to a pointer bullet , ..sometimes you just think you need to fix something ,

[Dave Roelle]

Thanks a lot Dean-------------this is my first run at Paper Patch and while reading all the information shown here by so many folks its stilll something completely new for me to experience !!

Results on the target are what matter and "so far so good"----i'll continue to search for answers

Keep well and stay safe

Dave

[Gunlaker]

Dean that's a nice idea for a lube cookie mould. I think I'll make one of those up this weekend. What are you using as a follower?

Thanks,

Chris.

[powderburner]

I make mine , some are out of brass with turned wooden handles some are brass adjustable ,

[bobw]

while confetti is nice , one of my best Creedmoore loads was a heavy velum patch on a round nose bullet that left a 1/2 patch and a confetti top wrap , I shot some of my best scores with it , the big problem I saw with it was so much elevation compared to a pointer bullet , ..sometimes you just think you need to fix something ,

Dean hit this on the nut.Don't fix what isn't broke. My .440" 45 TGBS ppb at 530-540 grs at 1-50 alloy wrapped in vellum shoots good for me. And yeah I use a lube wad for my target loads to help keep my fouling soft, 2 wipes with a damp patch works for me. The upper wrap is confetti but the base wrap is still in 1 piece. bobw

[Dave Roelle]

Hi Bob

Thanks for the follow up Sir-----------testing yesterday at 200 yards i shot to a 10 shot group of 3 minutes, nothing spectacular but an improvement !!!!!!!!!!

changin wind from 3 to 5 o'clock and shooting off the bench most probably opened the group 1 minute from what i usually shoot of sticks prone soooooooooooooo loadin 70 rounds for next weeks silhouette match----------enough for sight settings and a 40 target match.

I'll no doubt get plenty of kibitzers shooting PP but its enjoyable

Seems this slick slug shoots about 2 or 3 minutes lower than my money bullet greaser

Thank again for the help

Dave