Utah State BPCRS match

[Kurt]

Sure looks good.
I just looked when Lodi falls in sept. and it's the same weekend so Lodi will be it. Lodi and Alliance is also on the same weekend in May. So Alliance is out too. Sure wanted to make that one but that's the way it goes.

[Don McDowell]

We were thinking about maybe going to Kansas, and then when Carol read the program for this one,,, we're going back to Perry City.

[alfajim]

Don, first off yep looks like the Salt Lake valley flat every where as far as you can see hasn't changed any since I left in 89.

I see that they are requiring all guns be as stated in the NRA BPCR silhouette rules which require all rifles to have barrel's at 30" length. Is there a varience for the trapdoor which is 32.6" or do they have to be shortened to 30" or just be a carbine?
I am asking as I was contemplating shortening the barrel on the one for shooting to 30" but then was reconsidering leaving it at 32.6" if the muzzle cleans up for better accuracy at LR shoots?
What's the opinion of the trapdoor folks.

[Don McDowell]

Jim are you sure about that 30 inch rule thing? I don't remember seeing it in any of the rule books.

[alfajim]

Jim are you sure about that 30 inch rule thing? I don't remember seeing it in any of the rule books.

Don. my error re reading the rules chart in the book it shows for BPCR iron sights as typical for era and a max weight of 12lbs 7oz so sorry for that I am good to go if I get it all put together in time to do work ups.
What is the requirement for the open bolt flag in design or config?

[Don McDowell]

The usual NRA open bolt indicator ( hard plastic yellow flag ) is pretty typical, some places allow a blow tube.

[Kurt]

Jim.
I have just been going over the rules myself. I never shot a NRA BPCR silhouette match my self. The max weight is 12#2oz.

After reading the rules I'm not to sure my CPA 44-1/2 is legal even.

Black Powder Cartridge Rifle -

A hunting or military style rifle, single shot, originally made for black powder cartridges, of United States manufacture prior to 1896 and being typical of the era. Replicas thereof, regardless of origin of manufacture, are permitted. Hammer must be exposed. If replacement barrels, stocks, or other parts are used, they must be as original. No Schuetzen-style rifles permitted. One rifle will be used during all phases of the match. Examples of permissible rifles are: Ballard, Buck, Bullard, Cole, Farrow, Maynard, Peabody, Redfield, Remington Hepburn, Remington Rolling Block, Sharps, Springfield Trapdoor, Stevens Tip-up, Stevens No. 44, Wesson Falling Block, Wesson (hinged barrel), Whitney Phoenix, Whitney Rolling Block, Winchester 1885, and Wurfflein. While the following single shot actions may not conform to the exact criteria of Rule 3.4, they are allowed because they conform to the spirit of the competition in form and function, provided the firearms conform to all other configurations of Rule 3.4: Browning Model 1878, Browning Model 1885, C. Sharps ‘75, Falling Block Works, Stevens 44 1/2 and Wickliff ‘76. Replicas other than exact reproductions of pre-1896 Black Powder actions as described above and shooting equipment as described herein, must be passed by the Silhouette Committee with the advice of the Black Powder Committee. It shall be the competitor’s responsibility to provide any documentation which may be required to establish that all Black Powder Cartridge Rifle equipment conforms to these rules.

(a) Maximum weight 12 pounds, 2 ounces.


(b) Rear sights will be of vernier or ladder type, typical of the era, either open or peep, mounted on the tang or barrel. No modem style receiver, glass, or tube sight permitted. Front sights must be typical of the era, and may be shaded. No modem or olympic-type sights permitted.

[Don McDowell]

Kurt as long as your CPA doesn't exceed the weight limit, it is a perfectly legal silloutte rifle, and a quite popular one as well.

[Don McDowell]

And if you have the scope on it, the weight limit goes to 15 lbs.

[Kurt]

Don.
The reason I mentioned the CPA 44-1/2 was as stated in the rules. I have done a lot of research on the .44-1/2 Stevens to see when this model was actually made because some arguments about the legality of the 44-1/2 Pope/Stevens actions where made in 1900 and that would disqualify that action for Silhouette matches. But I have found a documented letter that the 44-1/2 Stevens rifle was sold to Gifford Pinchot in 1896. He became the Governor of PA later on.

So I don't understand what the Silhouette committee should even have to have anything to do with it if it was made before 1896 anyways.