I just bought a Roller # 1 sporter with single set trigger. Fine and dandy but its 32 RF. That won't last long as my first inclination is to slap a 50-70 barrel on it. As this rifle is destined for hunting the choice is appropriate.

Musing along, did I read anywhere about chamber dimensions and PPB for this round? Just can't pin it down.

Too, the thought of maybe a 50 with the 2 inch long cased popped up but I can't remember the historical basis for that one at all.

Finally, another that crossed my mine is the 44-100 straight but maybe throttled back. If a 45-70 is sized down to 44 does that roughly approximate the 44 Ballard or Maynard?

Just musing here, but seems that if the twist were compatable, what about a rechamber to something like the 32-40?

Don, I just got my heart set on a punkin roller. I've been around a 32-40 and it just doesn't resonate with me.

Need to talk to Sourdough, Dick Savage , and Mike about the short punkin roller. Those guys been emailing targets around that are really something.
Steves shiloh military rifle is burning barns with it's tiny little groups.

Sam are you plumb set on a roller? I was going thru the C Sharps available guns, and they got a plethora of 50 cal's just sitting there wanting a new home...

(03-06-2013, 08:49 PM)Caprock Wrote: Don, I just got my heart set on a punkin roller. I've been around a 32-40 and it just doesn't resonate with me.

Caprock I'll be glad to chat 50-70 with you. My '74 from C. Sharps is doing very well with the bullet I "designed" for Accurate Molds. (I say "designed" because all I did was send in the dimensions. It's a tapered bullet.) Dakota Dick Savage also has his favorites from Accurate Molds so you have your choice of at least three good paper patch designs from that maker. My favorite weighs close to the old 473 grain bullet made for the .50-90 and I have seen references about that bullet also being loaded in the .50-70. Dick Savage prefers a heavier bullet and his favorite weighs in at 540 grains. That will have obvious advantages for long range shooting and Dick dropped a big buffalo with one of them. Anyway, if you go for a .50-70 you do have a good choice in bullets. Mike

LOL! I guess I am Don cause its bought and paid for...just hasn't got here yet. Pretty decent wood/metal and it has the factory SST. Litttle skinny barrel in 32 rf. Remington made maybe 11-12k sporters and I bet only a fourth of them were in buffalo calibers....the rest were rimfires.

Am going to the big Tulsa show in a few weeks...I'm really gonna be pissed if the guy shows up with that Shiloh 50 I missed out on last year....or maybe not!

Sam,

not sure but is the .32 rim fire #1 reciever ring large enough for the larger .518" chamber for the .50?

(03-07-2013, 02:59 PM)Kurt Wrote: Sam,

not sure but is the .32 rim fire #1 reciever ring large enough for the larger .518" chamber for the .50?

Boy I hope so Kurt!!! Its my understanding that a # 1 is the same no matter the caliber. A 1 1/2 sure would be undersized but this isn't the case.

Don't know for sure about the true sporting actions but the #1 military blackpowder action has a .975" thread, the 1902 action has 1.055" and the #1 1/2 sporting action is .850"