Old E residue

[Dan Cash]

I just started using Old E and while pleased with the performance, I observe a couple of curious things.

First, when cleaning the bore after firing, I am getting a rust colored residue. The residue is peculiar to Old E and not a byproduct of lube, wad or neglect. Any ideas? Does this residue need to be removed? It is very difficult to clean the bore until the patch no longer shows the redish brown color.

Second, during a match this weekend, several people asked what was in my cartridges and my shooting partner's cartridges as they were getting hit with some granular material blowing back (we had a head wind on the line) from the discharge. I do not use any granular filler; only powder, fiber wad and bullet.

Thanks,
Dan

[mherth]

I just started using Old E and while pleased with the performance, I observe a couple of curious things.

First, when cleaning the bore after firing, I am getting a rust colored residue. The residue is peculiar to Old E and not a byproduct of lube, wad or neglect. Any ideas? Does this residue need to be removed? It is very difficult to clean the bore until the patch no longer shows the redish brown color.

Second, during a match this weekend, several people asked what was in my cartridges and my shooting partner's cartridges as they were getting hit with some granular material blowing back (we had a head wind on the line) from the discharge. I do not use any granular filler; only powder, fiber wad and bullet.

Thanks,
Dan

Dan, you didn't inadvertently mix some powders on the reloading bench did you? I've almost done that and as a result only keep one powder on the bench at a time. and am careful to check what's in the powder trickier as well when finished. I'm finding that it takes more patches to get the barrel clean after using OE compared to KIK and GOEX, but no red stuff.

Please post the results of last weekend's shoot. Thanks.

[Don McDowell]

I have not noticed any of what you're describing. Altho I do know when cleaning oe fired brass, there is a greenish cast to the water.

[Mike]

I have encountered the "rusty" reddish brown color when cleaning the bore after use with OE powders but not every time. In fact, I just noticed that after shooting some of the new 1F Olde Eynsford. Now I'll watch to see if that is encountered again. And the "un-burned blow back," that's a new one as far as I know. Keep us posted on more of your experiences. Shoot sharp,

[Lumpy Grits]

I have not noticed any of what you're describing. Altho I do know when cleaning oe fired brass, there is a greenish cast to the water.

Me either and I run the 2F?
Gary

[Dan Cash]

No, Mike, I have not mixed any powders, even black powders. This week end was not my first use of Old E as I have fired a fair number of rounds up at Jim Hovet's shoot at Antelope, MT. For what it is worth, Temperature and humidity was similar there as they were here last week end. I did not notice the residue when I cleaned my rifle there at Antelope. I will keep folks posted on further observations.

[Hiwall55]

Two weeks ago at a match I had a guy come up to me with a patch that was covered with a rust colored substace and he got it from his bore after shooting OE. I've never seen this kn any of my rifles that I shoot with OE and told him that,but will keep an eye out.

[Don McDowell]

I'm wondering if the "rust" stuff is something similar to the muzzle berries we used to look for in muzzle loaders. Those indicated a good load..But were the result of some sort of reaction from the sulphur in the powder.

[Dan Cash]

I'm wondering if the "rust" stuff is something similar to the muzzle berries we used to look for in muzzle loaders. Those indicated a good load..But were the result of some sort of reaction from the sulphur in the powder.

This might be the answer. When my loads with Kik were performing their best, the blood streak "berries" were present at the muzzle. I have seen the streaks also with Old E but have not equated them with the rust color. I will have to look.

[Don McDowell]

LOL well I hope you got it figured out soon... I've got about 30 rounds of 40-90 bn loaded with the new 1f,, and was comptemplating loading another 50 or 60 to take to the Dean Scoggins memorial match, or the anniversary match at Watkins..Now I'm concerned..