Hey Kurt

[Kurt]

Yes they are the clone of the original bullet.
I changed the cup base to a dish base to stiffen up the rim a little more and a little shallower dish to fold the paper into.

There are three flats 50 each of bullets of different lengths if you havent noticed.

A load of 80 grains of 1.5 KIK with the 1.145" bullet compressed just enough to place 1/4" lube wad on top of .012 poster wad over the powder and one under the bullet shoots very good in mine.
My rifle is not particular what powder load or primer I use with that bullet and it is good to the 1K in the .44-90 BN.