40-70ss recipes

[Don McDowell]

I have a 40-70ss in a CPA using 405 brass, it's a lot thicker than Jamison . I know that my 405 Hornaday will not fit your chamber.

I'm anxious for this rifle to get here. I understand that CSA is cutting their chambers to fit this brass.
Just got thru casting another batch of bullets. Forgot about the .400 dia. 360 gr slick BACO blocks I had , so I ran a batch of those along with the 395 creedmoors..

[Don McDowell]

TNX Don. Sounds like goo brass. Going to have to get some.
The Hornady .405 brass wont fit my Shiloh either. I had to make a swage die to take the base down so it fis the Shiloh's tight chamber. Then it makes fine brass for the PP.

It's good stuff. Wanna bring your rifle out and we'll load some before we go to Cody's sillouette match a week from Saturday.

[Hiwall55]

Don I haven't tried the 395 BACO but the Saeco 740 with 60 grains of Swiss 1.5 and a .060 Walters wad is my chicken and pig load. CPA rifle and .405 brass. It's very accurate and consistent.

[Hiwall55]

Don I haven't tried the 395 BACO but the Saeco 740 with 60 grains of Swiss 1.5 and a .060 Walters wad is my chicken and pig load. CPA rifle and .405 brass. It's very accurate and consistent.

[Don McDowell]

Thanks Bill, been thinking about ordering that mould. I have a 50% off from Redding I need to use up pretty quick.

[Kurt]

I cant get out of here before thanksgiving weekend.
The Gypsy wagon is pretty well loaded ready to go. I just have to get some bullets cast and loaded.
I been trying to cast and load but my back is hurting so bad that I cant stand or sit for long. I was down in the basement the other day and pushed it to long and I ended crawling up the stairs.
Right now we have some bad wind and weather moving in.

[Don McDowell]

Aw just jump in the car and come on out , you two can stay here at the house.
That storm that's about to get you has had 80 between Cheyenne and Evanston closed since last night. Not a horrific amount of snow, but lots of blackice and folks just ain't adjusted to winter driving yet..

[J.B.]

Looking forward to some photos Don. As for loads.. well my boys 40/70 is still very much a 'study in progress'. If you're running 1/16" then I'd keep your bullets around a maximum of 410 grns. I've done very little with pp in this round but loading 80 grns of 2f Swiss behind a 400 grn slick is certainly doable. I've had Acc. make up a gg mould and also tried one of Harlans moulds that allow seating several bands into the rifling but none so far seem to shoot any better than the Lyman Snover. The problem I've had with it is lack of case capacity and leading. The lube grooves in the Snover are almost not existent and with .7" of case taken up with the bullet, then 64 grns or so of Swiss 2f is about as good as it gets. It was a fairly accurate load though despite leading and if you kept on top of it by wiping, then the accuracy could be maintained. Let it build up and it went to pot. If..or should I say ..when I get around to ordering another mould it will likely be similar to the Kidwell/Baco money bullet with several bands reduced but with sufficient lube grooves already into the rifling to stop that initial leading. Obviously not a problem with pp but I haven't gone there yet. I've been using BACo Krag brass without issue and its been good. The 405 Hornady brass is very nice quality but I had the same problem Kurt had and had to reduce the base diameter slightly to fit. I've kept these for paper patch though as its better suited and there is less case capacity due to the thickness. I'd be keen to try that Saeco bullet but it also takes up a lot of capacity.

Gavin.

[Don McDowell]

JB did you try wiping between shots with that snover. I know that's the thing that has bothered me the most with that bullet in the 4065 was the occasional leading. I am thinking about having Doc bring his sharps over so I can adjust the seating depth on some of these 360 gr patched bullets. His rifle is a CSA so I would assume the same reamer was used.
After loading the first few patched bullets (they're just under bore dia) I sort of figure this thing is going to be a long skinny 40-65.
Hopefully my FFL guy calls tomorrow or Friday.

[Mike]

I was discussing the Snover bullet with another .40/70 shooter last Sunday. He says to put a 1/32" to 1/16" grease cookie under the Snover bullet and it can make a positive difference. I have that mold but haven't used it enough to make many comments of my own. Other shooters have mentioned they don't care for the Snover because of the small grease grooves.
Another mold I have is the RCBS 400 grain pointed but that bullet hasn't been tried enough for further comments. Shoot sharp, Mike