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Blackhorn 209
11-26-2012, 03:32 PM,
#11
RE: Blackhorn 209
Elwin said he was using about 32 grs, but was using pufflon on top of it..
Wondering about the cost, just the powder is already the same price as Swiss per round...
And I went to get the cases we had used, and I washed yesterday, and the primer pockets had a white crud like on top of an old battery in them , a couple it had grown completely over the flashole...
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11-26-2012, 05:44 PM,
#12
RE: Blackhorn 209
blackhorn cost about the same as swiss but you only use about half as much. Never have had any white crud in my cases.
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11-26-2012, 06:08 PM, (This post was last modified: 11-26-2012, 06:09 PM by Semtav.)
#13
RE: Blackhorn 209
(11-26-2012, 03:32 PM)Don McDowell Wrote: Elwin said he was using about 32 grs, but was using pufflon on top of it..

Elwyn is using a different bullet and seating depth than Dave.
Come to the long range match next Saturday and check them out first hand. Angel

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11-26-2012, 06:54 PM,
#14
RE: Blackhorn 209
Would like to do that, but need to go to the auction and see about getting another pickup.
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11-27-2012, 06:17 PM,
#15
RE: Blackhorn 209
(11-26-2012, 02:44 PM)Old Jim Wrote: Does BH need to fill the case to the base of the bullet, as with other BP? If not, is a filler used to take up the open space?

Local store has a lb. of it, i'm just askin'.
Jim I visited with one of the fellers in Miles City for bit this afternoon.
He said to keep the bullet on the powder, and if you didn't want to use that much powder use a filler, ie dacron, puflon , cornmeal etc...

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11-28-2012, 08:42 AM,
#16
RE: Blackhorn 209
Just use straight black. No risk of pressure spikes, it is a lot less expensive, and clean up is a lot easier. Shoot straight, rdnck.
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11-28-2012, 07:48 PM,
#17
RE: Blackhorn 209
Sound words Bill, but I'm more interested in seeing what this stuff will/won't do, rather than dumping it.. So I'll shoot this can up, and in the end will know whether indeed it does anything that straight smokeless , straight black or even a duplex load won't do...If Carol decides it's doing what she wants in her rifle then we'll get more and load her rounds with it. If not, we'll of at least gave it an honest exam..
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11-29-2012, 01:26 AM,
#18
RE: Blackhorn 209
(11-25-2012, 06:42 PM)Don McDowell Wrote: Ok folks who wants to spill their guts about running this stuff?
Shadow, Porta, Semtav, you guys payin any attention?Smile
I loaded 20 rounds with 37 grs and a .060 wad in fireformed Remington cases, primed with Federal 215 match primers, and topped with the 527 gr money bullet from John Olsen. She ran these thru her hiwall for a few rounds then I finished the lot up.
Anyway accuracy was pretty decent at 300.
So I cleaned the gun washed the brass, and am now comtemplating the next effort to see if we can get this stuff to work for Carol and her hiwall.
Thinking next go will be 39 grs with the 645 saeco bullet, see if the recoil isn't slapping her in the cheek as much as the heavier bullet...

Don,

You know me, straight smokeless. Do have a chance to sit next to a guy that does shoot it and he does quite well with it. I sat next to him at the Montana thousand yard, don't know if he was shooting 209 or not, if he was it worked well for him.

On another note, I've had speaks with another gentleman that tried it out and tried the if you use it you're not supposed to have to clean your rifle right away like black powder, left it dirty, for three, four or five days (can't remember) then cleaned his rifle. He recommends cleaning your rifle sooner, rather than later.Angry Don't know if he still uses it.

Which reminds me I should maybe clean mine from the last shoot I had? I think that was back in OctoberHuh Not sure. Oh well the joys of shooting the powder of the devil.Tongue

I wasn't that interested in spending more for 209 than I spend on smokeless and getting more mess in returnUndecided

That money bullet is what I was using at the Montana 1000, that 645 gr is going to give more bite at the South end of the stock, not so sure even I'd like that considering I'm a slightly larger mountain than Miss Carol.

Best wishes on working up something for Miss CarolAngel

I'm gonna go finnish loading for my little project I got goingWink
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11-29-2012, 01:32 AM,
#19
RE: Blackhorn 209
Brian that "645" is the Saeco bullet knobs uses, weighs 480 grs.
We'll see what this stuff does, but I'm thinking it's not going to offer enough improovement to justify the added cost...but we'll see.Got another 75 rounds or so before the can goes dry..
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11-29-2012, 01:41 AM,
#20
RE: Blackhorn 209
(11-29-2012, 01:32 AM)Don McDowell Wrote: Brian that "645" is the Saeco bullet knobs uses, weighs 480 grs.
We'll see what this stuff does, but I'm thinking it's not going to offer enough improovement to justify the added cost...but we'll see.Got another 75 rounds or so before the can goes dry..

Don,

Heck, I knew that, I used to shoot that bullet. Wasn't paying attention.

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