Olde Eynsford 2F in the .44/90

[Don McDowell]

jb just go with the same volume.

I've had some decent groups at 1000 shooting 76 gr oe 1 1/2.

[Kurt]

MIKE hello MIKE.......

I say again.....do a one grain interval ladder load!!

[Kurt]

JB
Is that projectile a PP?

[J.B.]

JB
Is that projectile a PP?

Not yet Kurt. Ashamed to say I haven't made that step with the 44 yet. This is the mould I mentioned to you last year that I specified for Steve Brooks to make. Picked it up at last years Q and have been using it the last couple of shoots down here. It's 1.4" long and the base three bands run .4465" for only .3" of its length. The third band can actually be set out also courtesy of the Shilohs 7 degree transition. This leaves close to 1.2" clear of the case and sitting up in the lands. It just barely engraves at .4385" and is a gentle push seat in the breech. I really had this designed for the 1/17" twist rifle I use in the U.S. ... trouble is I can't test it much as I'm 7000 miles away. I was going to give you some at Baker to try but you had to skedaddle before I had the chance.

Gavin.

[Mike]

MIKE hello MIKE.......

I say again.....do a one grain interval ladder load!!

Kurt, I hear you! For this first try I loaded only four rounds with the 90 grains of 2F, mainly to see how it would compare to the ammo loaded with the 1 1/2F. Maybe I just found out... But in the future, maybe after these empties are dry and ready, I'll do some loading in a one-grain ladder. However, today I needed fixing much more than my loads, I did not perform very well. Shoot sharp, Mike

[Kurt]

Gavin.
Baker is out for me this year even the Q is doubtful. Carolyn is scheduled for clinical tests at the Mayo Clinic at the time Baker is on so things are on hold for those two shoots.
But I will tell you this.....I will load up some ladder loads with 1.5 OE for you to do some testing. I will just seat a wad to keep the powder in the case and I have a 310 tool for the .44-77 to finish compressing the powder for your bullet.
Even if they don't get used I will test the loads for my rifle because I have not used 1.5 in it but for just a few loads. I have more 1.5 then I will most likely ever burn up.
Kurt

[J.B.]

Kurt .. as usual I'm humbled by offers of assistance from you, Don and a number of others. I don't think you'll need to go to that extreme though... although I'd be interested in any feedback you get from testing. We don't get Goex at all down here but I was thinking that Old Eynsforde gets such a good rap from most that use it, that I could possibly load with it in the future when I get the chance to come Stateside. There's probably no need as Swiss is usually available when I travel but curiosity has the better of me. Just curious if O.E. is on par with Swiss, energy wise and produces similar performance. I've heard the fouling tends to be softer that Swiss and imagine thats a good thing for the blow tubers .
I'm sorry you won't make Baker ..and possibly not the Q either but clearly the health of ones loved ones comes first. Hope its nothing serious.
thanks again
Gavin.

[Don McDowell]

JB I wouldn't put to much stock in the bad rap some give OE. There are some folks that have tried it and didn't come up with anything they were particularly proud of. There are some who won't try it because it's GOEX, and there are some who claim it to be a bad powder, yet the one most vocal critic of it was out shot on 3 of the 6 targets at the nationals last year, by 3 shooters using OE. Wes Daems won the Quigley with it , and usually win someone wins the Q that starts a mad dash towards the winners equipment list,, but didn't happen that time and it does make one curious as to why. I can't remember the charge that Chip Mate uses in his 44-77 other than it's 2f OE, but that's been treating him very well at the 1000 yd match in Phoenix the last 2 years.
76 gr. of 1 1/2 with most bullets in the 44-77 seems to be pretty good, 77 gr. of 2f is also a good load, with either compress it how ever much you need to seat the bullet.

[Mike]

Gavin, Look me up at Quigley. I'll have at least one box of .44/77s loaded with OE 1 1/2, probably 75 grains, under a 470 grain bullet that you can try. That's the load my rolling block likes best. It won't be enough for you to shoot the match with but you can see how it does on a couple of targets before the match. Shoot sharp, Mike

[J.B.]

Thanks for the offers and feedback guys. Actually Don I actually meant that the feedback I'd been hearing about O.E. had all been good so far ( ie. not bad ) and hence I was keen to give it a try to see how it compared and just to get the experience. I'd heard nothing bad about it to date. I'll have that 1 pound of powder to try and cases to fill so that should give me enough to see how it compares... side by side with my usual Swiss load. Of course it will help if I shoot consistently enough to compare the two . I usually find thats more of a task than the load. As always it will be good to be with a bunch of like minded people and making smoke. That's what its all about. Thanks again.

J.B.