Slug Guns and Muzzleloaders

[Jim Kidwell]

I can't win!

Is that the definition of a loser?.................................Jim

[bpsteve]

Kidwell,
Up in the right hand corner of your post it says reputation.
They have you correctly marked as a "ZERO"

[bpsteve]

Back to the subject,
Who makes the actions for the slug guns today? Barrels?
I know they are a very small part of the shooting game today so what does a guy do if he wants to build one?
They shoot here every year at the NMLRA Nationals (Kenny and Jimbo shot last year) but the ranks have gone down.
When I got interested there were 8-10 guys competing and now maybe 3-4 tops.
I've never owned a muzzle loader in my life but if I was to change that it would be a slug gun!
Steve R.
AZ.

[Don McDowell]

Steve you could probably machine your own if you could get ahold of a drawing for the Hopkins and Allen under hammer.

[Jim Kidwell]

Steve,

It looks like it would be easy for someone like you to build, but there seems to be a lot of extra nick knacks you have to have to complete the package.

Jimbo and Kenny had me interested last year and Garbe had one or two he was willing to let go. The problem around here is the lack of interest, so it would be a solo sport and I already have one of them................Jim

[Slugun45]

Steve, the barrels are the problem. There are a couple of guys producing castings for the actions. Web Terry ( now deceased), Ken Bresien , and Jim Goodoin made most of the barrels now being shot at Friendship, but none are now producing barrels.
The spring shoot is now going on here in Friendship and we have 19 shooters on the line with 3 or 4 more who will move up from the round ball line later in the week.
I've been shooting sluguns for 10 years now and we have a ball.

Jim lemon

[Joe Gussenhoven]

Hey Joe welcome to the forum. Feel free to jump right in and tell us about your guns ammo etc. We don't charge by the thread, and we are definetly interested in hearing and talking with folks about their experiences.

Thanks for the welcome, Don. Thank you also for starting a slug gun forum/thread. As Kidwell mentioned, a lack of interest, makes these rifles expensive to own and expensive to get to the matches, when/if you can find one. Having said that there will be a slug gun match at Mike Otterberg's Summer heat match in Glasgow MT this August. I plan to be there with my Seth Millard .56 slug gun. The only way we can create interest for this type rifle and competition is to get the word out.

SUMMER HEAT 2012 REGIONAL SCHUETZEN AND BENCH MATCH
AUGUST 10th 11th & 12th VALLEY CO. RIFLE & PISTOL CLUB
RANGE, GLASGOW, MT.

THURS. AUG. 9 - OPEN RANGE PRACTICE AND SIGHT IN. (no fee)

FRI. AUG. 10 8:00 20 SHOT BENCH MATCH-200 YARDS-10 SHOTS PER TARGET ANY SINGLE SHOT RIFLE- ANY SAFE POWDER CHARGE- ANY SIGHT- LEAD BULLETS ONLY. ( BRIEF. SIGHT IN PRIOR TO START OF MATCHES)

FRI. AUG 10 50 SHOT .22RF BENCH MATCH 100 YARDS-10 SHOTS PER TARGET ANY 22RF RIFLE (LOADED SINGLEY)-ANY SIGHT.

FRI. AUG. 10 10 SHOT OFFHAND MUZZLE LOADER MATCH- 100 YARDS- - ANY MUZZLE LOADER RIFLE CAP OR FLINT- ROUND BALL OR LEAD BULLET, NO SABOTS-BLACK POWDER OR BLACK POWDER SUBSTITUTE-IRON SIGHTS.
Muzzle loader King match
20$ range fee allows entry for all Fridays matches

SAT. AUG.11 8:00 1ST STAGE OF 100 SHOT OFFHAND MATCH-50 SHOTS@200YDS. ANY SINGLE SHOT RIFLE-ANY SAFE POWDER CHARGE-(IRON SIGHT)-LEAD BULLET-.WY. SCHUETZEN UNION RULES AND TARGETS-
SAT. AUG. 11 30 SHOT .22RF OFFHAND MATCH (TIME PERMITTING)
-100 YARDS-10 SHOTS PER TARGET ANY .22RF RIFLE (LOADED SINGLEY)-ANY SIGHT-
.22 KING MATCH TO FOLLOW THIS MATCH. $1 FEE.
BAR-B-Q AT OTTERBERG PLACE ON FT..PECK LAKE.
20$ range fee allows entry to all Saturdays matches

SUN. AUG 12 8:00 2ND STAGE OF 100 SHOT SCHUETZEN MATCH(50 SHOTS ANYSIGHT) HIGH
AGGREGATE WILL BE THE SCHUETZEN CHAMPION.
KING MATCH TO FOLLOW THIS MATCH 1$ FEE

20$ range fee allows entry to Sundays matchs

AWARDS AND PRIZE TABLE TO FOLLOW KING MATCH
SPACE LIMITED TO 28 SHOOTERS(2 RELAYS,14 PER RELAY
NO LUNCH SERVED AT RANGE BRING YOUR OWN, CALL MIKE
OTTERBERG FOR MORE INFO. 406-367-5281


This match announcement is posted at the WSU forum under (places to shoot schuetzen). Mike will be adding information about the slug gun match later.

Joe.

[bpsteve]

Jim,
Thanks for the info, didn't know you were a slug gun shooter!
I'll have to talk to Ron Smith in Canada about barrels.
Don't know if you saw the schutzen barrel he made out of rebar.
The owner of the rifle shot an "all in" 250 at the Raton Nationals with it.
My point is that if Ron can make a rebar barrel he should be able to make a slug gun barrel.
It shouldn't be a problem getting the blank material but getting some to bore and rifle it is the problem.
Steve R.
AZ.

[Jim Kidwell]

I saw the rebar barrel. It looked like it had bubble gum holding the sights on............................Jim

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[bpsteve]

Kidwell,
My reply was to Jim Lemon who is a friend of mine!

Don,
You may be correct about the military rifles. They are sure easy to load ammo for and they are fun to shoot but they will never replace BPCR for me.
After saying this Chip Mate, Bob Delatorre and I are driving all the way to Butte to shoot Mike Venturino's Vintage Sniper Challenge match which is a week after Butch's State BPCR Championship.
I feel guilty not going to the BPCR match but the three of us can only go on the weekend of the V/Sniper match.
Steve R.
AZ.