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RE: .44-77 and paper patch?
I thought about it and decided to post this update here with the original thread. Once I have my rifle back from Shiloh I'll start a new thread if there is still some interested in the .44-77 and how it goes for me.
Wednesday I got a call from Kirk at Shiloh, he wanted to go over the specifics of my rifle with me before he started the work. So I assume things are moving along.
We have exchanged many emails and a few phone conversations over the past few months. Kirk has more than once mention that my Green Mountain barrel is not what he would prefer to work with because it was already octagon. He has explained to me how he runs his barrels and that by starting with a barrel with the octagon already machined it would require doing the work outside the usual process and would take longer than normal for that reason.
Had I know from the start how Shiloh is setup I would have just had Kirk order a 17-twist barrel that fit his system and everything would have worked out much better. I just didn't know when I started out.
As we got into the details and talked over what I wanted to do with the rifle, what chamber would be best for my needs and other details it again came up that the barrel I sent would not be his first choice because of the special setup to do the work.
I told him I didn't want to do this twice, that I wanted the best possible result the first time. To my way of thinking that in part means making it as easy as possible for him to do what he does so well. So I said let's just do this right and step back for a minute. What barrel would you want that would fit your process best. We discussed a couple of options and decided on a Krieger barrel blank in a 17-twist. I told him to just order the barrel that he needed from Krieger to do this right.
So now this is what it will be.
A 1 in 17 Krieger barrel at 30", heavy full octagon.
The standard Shiloh .44-77 chamber with .050" long freebore and standard lead angle.
No rear barrel sight.
Bead blasted and blued.
I feel good about the change. If I had this to do over again I would have called Shiloh and made arrangements to ship my action only to them and done that as soon as possible.
Then I would have called them and told them what I wanted and let them order the barrel that worked best for them and gives me what I want. That is where we ended up now, it just would have been less painful, but I did know and I made a few mistakes on my way to a .44-77.
They will ship the GM barrel back to me when my rifle is done. I'll probably sell it to someone else itching for a .44. I don't see another .44-77 in my future, one will be enough.
Once they have the Krieger barrel it should go into their system and it shouldn't take long after that to finish and call me.
With that in mind I went out and looked at my home range today. Not good! There's two feet of fresh snow on the ground so it will require snowshoes to get the target 200 meters down range. Then there are 4 trees that have blown over with all the heavy snow. Those will have to be cleared before any shooting can be done. Winter in Wisconsin can be a bit challenging, shooting can be down right difficult. I hope to find time over Christmas and New Years to get the range to some kind of useable condition. At least now I have a reason to get at it.
Jim Kluskens
aka Distant Thunder
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